Worlds 2025 – Review Part 1

Worn out but worth it…P/M Stuart Liddell after winning his fourth Worlds title

I heard all of the Grade 1 Medleys on the Friday and all of the MSRs on the Saturday. I also heard the first half of the Medley on the Saturday. Both days were blessed with warm sunshine.

I like medleys to have a powerful start – the overture – and a strong finish – the climax. FMM gave us that with their B52 set. P/M Wilson went for it, edging his tempos up a notch, with quite exceptional fingerwork to finish.

By Robert Wallace

Inveraray’s more sedate, soft focus Dream Valley set was musically captivating, understated and beautifully played (though I’m sure there is a flawed harmony note in the ending).

Given this is the 150th anniversary of composing genius John McLellan’s birth, there was considerable emotion too. (He wrote Dream Valley, as if you didn’t know.) But which did you prefer? Check the roar-o-meter from the crowd. Both set the stands alight, with FMM a few earfuls louder.

I was delighted to see David Wilton’s Fife Police doing so well. This is a refined outfit. A major championship cannot be far away for them. Consistent across both days, they are now on a level from where they can springboard to the very top.

Shotts at the Green 2025….revitalised on the Saturday

Shotts seemed tired on the Friday – not surprising after their concert heroics on the Wednesday night – but came back restored on the Saturday.

A closer look at some of the Friday Medleys: SLOT: weaker sound – just not the power we are used to from them; Scottish Power – played well enough but you know over-elaboration is never far away; SFU – melodic line lost at times but well executed and controlled throughout; Boghall – good overall, excellent jigs- errors at end?; Manawatu – year after year we have musical stuff from Stewart MacKenzie, perhaps the best Kiwi P/M of all time; Ravara – sounded terrific, hard to believe they were in G2 last year.


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Saturday spawned another perfect day. Most of the tone comments above held true 24 hours later. I think the warmth adversely affected the bands with smaller numbers of pipers, sharp Ds and low Gs, and shrill high As the main issues.

A few remarks on the Saturday G1 MSR: Terribly slow playing from Boghall; Perfect tempi from Inveraray but I couldn’t hear the low G or D doublings (Argyllshire Gathering/ John MacKechnie); Shotts – impressive bottom hand work in strathspey – what a difference from the Friday; Fife Police – drones drifting half way through? – refreshing march (Glengarry Gathering) and well played too; SFU boomy bass and too much broken time – more heartbeat pulse needed from bass and tenors; SLOT – pipers lacking conviction; FMM – precision fingerwork; outstanding piping; S Power – piper not away – strathspey well played – reel held back.

NZ’s Manawatu and P/M MacKenzie

All the other bands lacked chanter power (excepting Boghall) and this was not helped by shaky unison at times. However I have to say I thought the overall Grade 1 standard to be very high.

There is no doubt that Inveraray deserved to win the 2025 Worlds. FMM pushed them all the way with superb performances on the Saturday. Shotts, SFU and Fife Police are waiting in the wings. They are the heirs apparent. St Laurence need to get their tone back so that the piping can match their barnstorming back end. A young P/M at Boghall; he will find his feet and they will come roaring back next year.

For the others, console yourselves with this. Even if you do not make the prizes in Grade 1, you are in elite company when you stride into the arena at Glasgow Green to present your music to the world. This is an achievement in itself.

Cutting a dash – Canada’s 78th Frasers

Some bullet points on a very successful two days of competition:

  • The Friday Juvenile/ Novice idea seemed to have worked. I was sceptical at first, but provided the kids get free entry on the Saturday, this should continue. The large numbers arriving mid-afternoon Friday proved the event was popular with the public. Scheduling might be looked at. Youngsters were asked to play rather late in the day.
  • I dipped into Grade 2 whilst waiting for G1 to start. Too many bands playing at G1 tempos without the ability in their ranks to do so. LA Scots were a case in point. Slow down and point more to get the lift.
  • Balmoral bonnets give more protection from the sun – see 78th Frasers and judge Cameron Edgar. The 78th also had the best drum-trim-to-tartan match of any band I saw. Take a look Boghall and Johnstone!
  • Would the BBC producer please adjust his high camera crane before a band starts its performance. This piece of kit provides wonderful pictures but also a notable drone sound when it is being manoeuvred.
  • Why do some ensemble judges insist on going walkabout? How on earth can they assess the whole sound of a band from a shifting perspective, one minute close to pipes, next minute astride the drummers?
  • There were several empty seats in the stands. Free on Friday, these were meant to have been sold out on the Saturday. Not sure what is going on here.
  • The band summary sheets need to be put on another platform (RSPBA Fb?) as well as on the RSPBA website. It crashes every year as thousands from around the world check on their band.
  • Congrats to my old pal John Elliott, Ontario, who’s been helping the St John’s band in Harare, Zimbabwe, the new Novice B World Champions.
  • Several printing errors in the programme ‘Previous Winners’ section: Livingstone not Livingston, MacAllister not McAllister, McLellan not MacLellan
  • Big thanks to Ellen of Glasgow Life Comms for looking after the press so well. We even had our own office up near the Needle. Thanks too to everyone at the RSPBA, President Bob, Chief Exec. Colin and the super efficient Rachel. The March Forward is a big improvement on the interminable March Past and no irritating BBC intervention before the G1 announcement.

8 thoughts on “Worlds 2025 – Review Part 1

  1. Hi Robert
    I would like to respectfully respond to your comment on ‘why do ensemble judges go walkabout?’
    One example (of many that I can think of) is to do with the bass drum, and I would like to limit my comments here to that instrument, and in particular to the assessment of the sonic balance between the bass drum and the pipe corps drones, in competition.
    A bass drum’s projection-field is such that the quality of its sound can change, significantly, depending on where in that field the listener is positioned.
    A well-tuned bass drum, is able to project its sound many 10s of metres beyond the contest circle, but its projection-field includes both sweet-spot and dead-spot areas.
    For example, a judge standing side-on to the bass is more likely to be hearing the instrument at its best, but when listening from directly in front, or behind (from the bass drummer’s perspective), the quality of sound can be completely different.
    So too, a listener’s perception of the bass sound will change, depending on how the bass drummer has orientated him/herself during the performance (sometimes they position themselves so that the drumming judge is receiving their best sound).
    Hence, in my view, it is vital, when one is judging ensemble, that one appreciates the strengths and limitations of the bass drum, and is prepared to go walkabout in order to give a fair appraisal.
    One might include your comment on SFU’s boomy bass here 🙂
    Thank you
    Alan Jones (owner and editor of: pipebandensemble.com)

    1. Does that mean a paying audience member has to wander round about the pipe band circle to get the best sound for enjoyment?

  2. The number of bands in the finale has been reduced and the bands now march forward as a massed band. This was supposed to speed up the finale but it hasn’t. It was supposed to start at 17:30 but there isn’t any time control for the remainder of the bands coming in so they keep wasting time elsewhere in the park “tuning” for no reason. So a lot of time is now wasted waiting on the bands gathering themselves up and coming in at random towards the back. They end up in a pile behind the centre bands.
    This method also takes away from the spectacle the public used to see when the centre bands played and each band marched in announced by name and usually cheered by their supporters, and they were filed in place properly by their drum majors. Something the public liked to see. Now with the lesser number of bands, the “marching in and salute” could be under a strict time control and could be done a lot quicker and keep the public interested and informed as to what is happening. Also the bulk of the spectators were around the sides and back of the hill. When the bands moved off as a massed band it was difficult to actually see or hear the massed band marching forward.

  3. I always enjoy your summary. Thank you. Bang on, constructive criticism without being hurtful.

    Yes, flawed harmony note. Worthy winners though

    Did FMM make a mistake in playing basically some their greatest hits in one medley rather than learning a new one?

    They were brilliant, don’t get me wrong

    Just my opinion

    1. Respectfully, it wasn’t a flawed harmony note. It was dissonance that created tension and subsequent resolution into consonant harmony. However, it is certainly out of the norm for a pipe band, hopefully not for long.

  4. I may be mistaken but since the format change to two Medleys and two MSRs is this the first time a band has won all four? The points difference between Inverary’s 28 and FMM’s 55 is easy to understand but difficult to assess with the association’s format of listing a place and a points total. Seasoned observers are interested in how the totals are made up. I echo your comments on the now inevitable website crash. It is ridiculous that this happens year in year out.

  5. While the ‘march forward’ closing ceremony technique may save time, I disagree with its use at the Worlds. As we all know, the Worlds Pipe Band Championship is the premier event of the pipe band year. For some bands this is a once-in-a-lifetime event. I don’t think any other pipe band event gets this kind of BBC live coverage. In the past these bands had their moment in the limelight as they marched past the reviewing stand and the BBC cameras. We got to see who they were even if they didn’t win a prize. Yes, this takes more time but this year’s closing massed bands seemed like a big ‘mosh pit’ If you are in the back you stay in the back, we cannot see you, sorry mom. I feel the ‘march forward’ is a bad idea for this one live event. Let the bands have their moment, let them ‘March Past’. Paul

  6. Regarding the G1 arena seating, having previously bought a ticket, I didn’t spend the entire Saturday there as I wanted to see the other grades, especially having seen G1 on the Friday. Now I prefer to wander around the park, looking to hear as many international bands as I can and so no longer book a seat. The RSPBA need to improve their communication, the march forward was announced to start 30 mins late due to the late competition end, however then there was nothing to explain the further 30 mins delay and the giz a band chant from the stands was well received

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